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Power Vent furnace compatibility
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HotRod Shop unregistered |
Hello, I have a problem with a Power Vent system on an oil fired boiler heating system. The home is less than 1 year old. There is a high pitched screaming noise which originates from the power vent when it is operating. I notified the builder who sent over a company man who originally installed the system. Despite my recommendation to replace the unit, he disassembled it and claimed all it needed was to be cleaned. The unit was quiet for a few weeks and then started the noise again. I again contacted the builder who again contacted the heating company. The heating company guy told him that the furnace needed to be cleaned and serviced because it was running too rich and that was what was causing the problem with the Power Vent. The builder did not believe that was the issue being a new system, but agreed to pay for the service call/cleaning. I called my regular heating guy I have used previously, and he told me several disconcerting things- first that a Power Vent system is not compatible with most oil fired systems. He claimed they are primarily for Gas furnaces. He then said he will not even work on such a combination due to prior bad experiences, several of which concluded in legal litigations resulting from his opinion that the two are incompatible. He further stated that the reason the builder would put a system together is cost only- to avoid having to build a proper chimney. He asked if we had any problems with soot accumulation in the vicinity of the furnace and we do indeed have a minor amount that does accumulate. His recommendation is to push back on the builder and insist that a proper chimney be built to replace the incompatible Power Vent. My question is to ask if his assessment is reasonable, if in fact a Power Vent does not belong on the system, and if his solution to replace it with a proper chimney is the right way to fix this. Thanks very much, sorry for such a lengthy posting IP: Logged |
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Tommy unregistered |
"In 1992, I replaced the electric forced air system with an oil furnace vented through the sidewall. I immediately began to have sooting problems. The conversion was made by Taylor Plumbing of Modina, NY and included a Weil McLain system with a Beckett burner and an SWG Sidewall Power Venter. The furnace was located in his garage. Local codes required that it be enclosed, so a "furnace room" was built within the garage. Sooting problems began almost immediately. "I keep a classic sports car in the garage and from day one, I've had to keep it covered because of black soot that came out of the furnace room. In the past seven years my contractor has been here at least a dozen times measuring, adjusting, changing nozzles all to no avail." The contractor concluded it was a combustion air problem and decided the only solution was to cut another hole in the wall to allow the infiltration of fresh combustion air. Tony didn't like that idea, so he called the manufacturer of the power venter, Field Controls, for other options. His problem caught the attention of Frank Kata, Field's Product Manager. "Actually, Tony had two problems," says Kata. "First, his system was starved for fresh air, causing inefficient oil burning and soot buildup in his combustion chamber. Second, because his home is so tight, negative pressure built up inside the building during vent cycles. The pressure was so great that when the furnace shut off, air was pulled back in through the power venter to equalize the pressure. This air flow caused the soot in the combustion chamber to blow back into his furnace room and garage. It was quite a mess." Kata recommended the Field Combustion Air Tee (CAT) and sent a CAT and a CAS-2 Combustion Air Kit to Tony's contractor with installation instructions. "The unique triple-pipe configuration of the Combustion Air Tee is the innovation that makes this solution possible without a second hole in the wall," according to Kata. "The CAT carries exhaust air out through the Power Venter while simultaneously bringing fresh combustion air in all through the same hole." The CAT connects directly to the SWG Power Venter. A second length of galvanized piping is added to connect the CAT to the furnace burner via the Field AirBootŪ. The AirBoot is calibrated to provide the correct amount of air for the burner. A VRV (Vacuum Relief Valve) acts as a safety valve in case the fresh air intake is blocked. "It's been installed since late September, with no signs of soot," says Prizzia. "I'm impressed." I found this on the web, and this is where i found it.. http://www.fieldcontrols.com/rpt.swg.html They have done the research for us and give you the answer. I hope this will help you with your problem. IP: Logged |
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HotRod Shop unregistered |
Thanks! IP: Logged |
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vutien unregistered |
Tommy, the link that you mentioned "http://www.fieldcontrols.com/rpt.swg.html" doesn't work anymore. Can you send the article to me or give me the name of the article so I can search on their website? Thanks a lot. I have soot problem as well hight pitch sound issue.
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